This pro-lifer wanted Charles Manson executed in the 70’s

The Los Angeles Times, January 25, 1989

Ted Bundy, the notorious serial killer, died Tuesday in the electric chair, just as the sun rose over the north Florida plains.

At 7:16 a.m., Theodore Robert Bundy–one of the worst serial killers of all time–was pronounced dead.

A witnessing newsman raised his hands in a signal as he left the Q Wing of Florida State Prison.

Across the street, along the dewy grass of a cow pasture, word spread among the 500 or so who had come to be near–and almost all to cheer–the death work.

Crowd Chants, ‘Burn’

Some began chanting, “Burn, Bundy, burn!” Others sang or hugged one another or banged on frying pans.

Fireworks kicked into the sky.

“I wish I could have been the one flipping the switch,” said David Hoar, a policeman from St. Augustine, Fla.

Killer Charles Manson, now 82, is reportedly seriously ill, possibly near death.

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Manson and other members of his so-called family were convicted of killing actress Sharon Tate and six other people during a bloody rampage in the Los Angeles area during two August nights in 1969. Prosecutors said that Manson and his followers were trying to incite a race war that he believed was in the Beatles’ song “Helter Skelter.”

Unlike Bundy, Manson escaped execution.

On January 25, 1971, Manson was found guilty of first-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder.  On March 29, 1971, Manson was sentenced to death.

But on April 24, 1972, the California Supreme Court outlawed the death penalty, ruling it to be “cruel and unusual punishment” and is “unnecessary to any legitimate goal of the state and incompatible with the dignity of man and the judicial process.”

All capital sentences in the state of California, including those for Manson and his followers were commuted to life in prison.

Since 1971 Manson has violated more than 100 rules.

Like the reaction outside the Florida State Prison when Bundy was electrocuted Manson’s imminent death being”celebrated” if you will is completely understandable and totally acceptable to me.

I support the death penalty. Manson should have been executed decades ago.

How do I reconcile my view on capital punishment with my pro-life stance?

Opponents of the death penalty claim this type of punishment is not a deterrent.

Supporters of the death penalty like me argue that of course it can’t be a deterrent. NOT WHEN YOU RARELY CARRY IT OUT!

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The Pope spent time in September 2015  lecturing Congress and America about the death penalty.  Inexcusably the Pontiff dedicated few words to the real moral crisis in the world,  the mass murder of innocent unborn children. The Pope missed a golden opportunity.

Let’s put this in perspective.

How many criminals were put to death last year (2016) in the United States? Try 20.

Now, how many unborn babies in 2012, the last year we have data available, were victims of abortion?

A total of 699,202 abortions were reported to CDC for 2012, the most recent year numbers are available. Reporting is voluntary and not 100%.

The Guttmacher Institute reported 1.05 million abortions in the US in 2012.

In some cases we can’t execute someone on death row, totally constitutional, because officials have decided that a lethal injection is cruel and unusual. Apparently what these scumbags did to their victims was not as abhorrent.

Again, the death penalty can never serve to dissuade others if never enforced.

As Congressman Henry Hyde once said, “Show me an unborn child who has been convicted of a capital crime by a jury of his peers, and he’s all yours!”

Last fall prior to the election I saw a brochure in the vestibule of my church. Entitled “A Brief Catechism for Catholic Voters,” it was written by Fr. Stephen F. Torraco, PhD.

Fr. Stephen graduated from St. Francis de Sales Seminary in Milwaukee, earned his Masters and Doctorate at Boston College and his Masters of Divinity at Harvard University. He was ordained in 1980. Since 1988 Fr. Torraco has been Associate Professor of Theology at Assumption College, Worcester, MA, until he died in 2010.

Fr. Torraco served on the Board of Catholic Experts of Eternal Word Television Network (EWTN), answering moral theology questions from people around the world at EWTN’s web site on a daily basis. He was the author of various books and articles in moral theology, medical ethics, the social teaching of the Catholic Church and the spiritual life.

Here’s an excerpt from his voting guide:

  • If I may not vote for a pro-abortion candidate, then should it not also be true that I can’t vote for a pro-capital punishment candidate?

It is not correct to think of abortion and capital punishment as the very same kind of moral issue. On the one hand, direct abortion is an intrinsic evil, and cannot be justified for any purpose or in any circumstances. On the other hand, the Church has always taught that it is the right and responsibility of the legitimate temporal authority to defend and preserve the common good, and more specifically to defend citizens against the aggressor. This defense against the aggressor may resort to the death penalty if no other means of defense is sufficient. The point here is that the death penalty is understood as an act of self-defense on the part of civil society. In more recent times, in his encyclical Evangelium Vitae, Pope John Paul II has taught that the need for such self-defense to resort to the death penalty is “rare, if not virtually nonexistent.” Thus, while the Pope is saying that the burden of proving the need for the death penalty in specific cases should rest on the shoulders of the legitimate temporal authority, it remains true that the legitimate temporal authority alone has the authority to determine if and when a “rare” case arises that warrants the death penalty. Moreover, if such a rare case does arise and requires resorting to capital punishment, this societal act of self-defense would be a *morally good action* even if it does have the unintended and unavoidable evil effect of the death of the aggressor. Thus, unlike the case of abortion, it would be morally irresponsible to rule out all such “rare” possibilities a priori, just as it would be morally irresponsible to apply the death penalty indiscriminately.

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